Hi Gang,

has anyone done a risk assessment for magic?? I have one for balloons but not performing magic!

Any help would be appreciated

regards

Norm

Hi Normski...

why do you need one ...

Did someone ask for one?

yes,working and performing show in a shopping center and its a requirement!!

regards

Norm

Hi this should answer your question http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/aug08.pdf what you are encountering is someone with a computer says no mentality, with no common sense. You don't need a risk assesment unless there is an actual risk in what you do, it would just be paperwork for paperworks sake.

On the rare occassions people mention risk assesments to me I send them this and it shuts them up.

I have a risk assessment for my stage shows that include balloons, magic and circus skills.

It would be worth your while making a generic all inclusive risk assessment for your shows/walkabout etc and just use the one whenever it is required. If you interact with people for balloons, then magic would be the same.

just for interest here is the topic discussed
//http://balloonchat.co.uk/april-2010-health-safety-regulations-t2544.html


I hope that helps,
Danny  

Love it Clive!!!

Pam
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cheers Pam, it certainly stops those so over H&S concious people who seem to want to put barriers in everyones way. Often they just don't understand the rules of the game, and resort to the old "they said we need this" when in fact they have no cue who They is, or have just invented 'they' to justify their stupid actions.

They can't argue which the official statement from the actual H&S people.

There are risks associated with balloons which need to be addressed.

#Popping
#Putting them in mouth
#Latex allergy
#Cochlear Implant
#Not suitable for children under 3 years

+ others that I have missed

By having a risk assessment which you can offer to your client will put you in a better position  
than those that do not have one.

Check out "Corporate Kids Marc Dominic" he makes some excellent point on this.

True there are the risks, highlighting a risk, without taking the action to prevent it is a waste of time & paper. The only way to prevent the balloons becoming a risk to anyone is simply not to use them, therefore seeing as you can't take any action to prevent the problems, it's not worthwriting them on a risk assesment.

QuoteTrue there are the risks, highlighting a risk, without taking the action to prevent it is a waste of time & paper. The only way to prevent the balloons becoming a risk to anyone is simply not to use them, therefore seeing as you can't take any action to prevent the problems, it's not worthwriting them on a risk assesment.

Seems very negative to me.

You highlight a risk and give a solution. Shows you are a responsible professional that knows their job.

Example: Latex allergy "If you know anybody that has a latex allergy please ensure they stay away as balloons contain latex."

There are people out there that that are not aware of this.

Not negative just common sense Fuzzy, the only time a risk assesment ever gets mentioned it's just some useless empire building nobody trying to make himself look important. It's people like that who've cause events that have been going on for generations without problems to be closed down through the unessesary hurdles they throw in the way.

I've only been ever asked a couple of times for them, and once I've sent the H&S myth back to them they've not asked again & still booked me. Thats because as a professional I've shown I've taken the time to research and understand the issue, rather than obey stupid made up rules.

If it ever got to the point where I was actually losing work, then of course I'd knock up a useless bit of paper just to keep them happy, but until that happens I'll just keep sending out the H&S myth.

Many thanks for your help guys, I believe for some events the promoter etc needs it for insurance purposes as it a needed form for this purpose alone,well that's what they told me!
Thanks again!
Norm