Agent taking the mick?

Started by LizzyB, November 03, 2010, 10:16:47 PM

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LizzyB

Received a text today from a promotions company asking for a balloon modeller and a face painter this weekend. Working both Saturday and Sunday, 10-4 and they're offering £216 for the face painter and £240 for the balloon modeller. That's for the two days, not one.

I didn't even bother to answer as it was just insulting.

Liz

Pam Pearce

#1
There is a topic in the private section on this agent and a quite shall I say heated discussion on the face painting forum too. Much to say thoughts and comments have already been made

I also know other agents and promotion companies upset by the rates offered from this company too.

But they can compete in a free market and offer rates they feel entertainers will accept...

If we all say NO they will have no performers... But in these times those with no work will do it.

Pam
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Graham Lee

#2
Yes the other discussions were very good reading, let's say someone has no work and with £240 on offer you should clear £200 profit for six hours work with breaks you would be on £20 an hour for the two days. So if someone really has had no work in for a while you can see that they will find someone at theses prices. Not saying it's right but you should look up the discussions on facepainting chat as it got me thinking.
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Billy Wiz

#3
Quote from: "Graham Lee"you should look up the discussions on facepainting chat as it got me thinking.

Have you got a link to that discussion please Graham, would like to read it but not sure what the website is. Thanks

Natalie

#4
Yes, me too.

Graham Lee

#5
www.facepaintingchat.co.uk
I think there were two threads going on this subject
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YvonneH

#6
Here it is:- http://www.facepaintingchat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=26238 This was the main one but there was another running at the same time along the same theme but that was more about shorter jobs i.e. 2 hours for £30 type ones.  I'll have a look and see if I can find it as I have commented on both  :roll:
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Billy Wiz

#7
Quote from: "YvonneH"Here it is:- http://www.facepaintingchat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=26238 This was the main one but there was another running at the same time along the same theme but that was more about shorter jobs i.e. 2 hours for £30 type ones.  I'll have a look and see if I can find it as I have commented on both  :roll:
Pain in the butt, I have to register first before I can read it and now have to wait for them to acknowlege me!

YvonneH

#8
Kingsley is usually pretty good about responding quickly.
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Billy Wiz

#9
Quote from: "YvonneH"Kingsley is usually pretty good about responding quickly.

Still can't log in this morning :(

Emazdad

#10
I had a call yesterday from a promotion company about Balloon Modelling this weekend 9-6 on Sat, 11-4 on Sunday, I told them what I wanted per day and got it.  However because it's short notice I did quote them a discounted fee as long as I can hand out my own cards.

Novembers always a slow month for me, and It's like Graeme said in his post, if you're not working it's best to go out for a bit less than your normal fee and earn something, rather than being stuck at home earning nothing.

however I'm getting more per day, than the company that contacted you was offering for both days. Maybe thats because I didn't ask them what they were offering just told them what I wanted.
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Clive
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Fuzzy

#11
QuoteHowever because it's short notice I did quote them a discounted fee

Seems back to front to me...Holidays cost more the nearer you get to the day... Care & share days cost more as you get nearer to the day.

Would have thought you had a bigger bargaining power as they need  something urgent that you could supply.

Fuzz

Emazdad

#12
Maybe so fuzzy, I did get the idea they were willing to pay what I asked because they were runnning out of options, however I put my need for the money before the chance toget as much as I could, and gave them a discounted fee to ensure I got the gig.

It's not just down to the money, I've now got two days in ASDA where I can hand out loads of cards, instead of 2 days at home bored stiff earning nothing.

Mind you instead of being able to do my own thing I have to do Mario themed balloons, if anyones got any good mario balloons they wouldn't mind sharing i'd be very grateful. my email address is mailto:magic@emazdad.co.uk">magic@emazdad.co.uk. I can do a Mario, but as I've never played the game I don't know what other charactors are popular. Thanks in advance.
Yours Funfully
Clive
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Mark-m

#13
I haven't designs but the other Mario characters shouldn't be too hard to do in balloons:

Yoshi - a green dinosaur, sometimes with a red baseball hat

Princess Peach - a pink princes with yellow hair (snow white done in pink would come close)

Luigi - same as Mario, but change the blue in yours for green + green cap.

Toad - nothing like a toad - a sort of Mushroom with legs.

Birdo
- a sort of pink dinosaur with a red hair bow


You would probably also get asked for Bowser - a Green prickly turtle thing with t-rex head. - this would have me very stumped

there many are others, but i am informed these are the main ones

Have fun

KJ Entertainments

#14
I just have a quick question about this as my understanding may be wrong but surely if you work for an agent you can't actually give out your own promotional material.
Quote from: "Emazdad"It's not just down to the money, I've now got two days in ASDA where I can hand out loads of cards, instead of 2 days at home bored stiff earning nothing.