Thanks Lisa, just merged the two threads together. I filmed 11 designs today face on, I have four still to do and then all of the 15 designs to be filmed over the shoulder. All is going OK except for the Elephant Hat, I keep redesigning it and not 100% happy so thinking about putting the snail hat back in it's place. Stopping now for today, I think I may dream pink elephants tonight. Will film everything else tomorrow and then go back to the elephant again after.