Quote from: "Simply Shonna"There are two sides to every story and the actual "truth" is usually somewhere between.
No doubt that both parties feel abused and mistreated.

Probably best not to take sides or ask anyone to take sides.  

Sorry you are both having a bad day.   Hope it gets better for both of you.

Martin said:

'' Actually all I did was to post on the forum asking if anyone else had been lucky enough to have you shouting the odds down the phone at them. Graham then phoned me and we fell about laughing at your expense. ''

He has denied accusing me of making an abusive phone call to him. And his topic has no mention of me shouting the odds down the phone which is another lie. He is backtracking what he has said.

The title and his post says it all. He clearly states that I made an abusive call so which is it? He is the editor of the topic.

Checkout his post for proof he is a liar:
has-anyone-else-had-abusive-phone-call-from-daniel-twist-t4978.html

Martin said:

'' Actually all I did was to post on the forum asking if anyone else had been lucky enough to have you shouting the odds down the phone at them. Graham then phoned me and we fell about laughing at your expense. ''

He has denied accusing me of making an abusive phone call to him.  And his topic has no mention of me shouting the odds down the phone which is another lie. He is backtracking what he has said.

The title and his post says it all. He clearly states that I made an abusive call so which is it? He is the editor of the topic.

Checkout his post for proof he is a liar:
//http://balloonchat.co.uk/has-anyone-else-had-abusive-phone-call-from-daniel-twist-t4978.html

Quote from: "Martin"

Quote from: "danieltwist"I rang  up Martin to ask him to stop making nasty comments and he reports me to Graham for being rude to him, which I was not.

Actually all I did was to post on the forum asking if anyone else had been lucky enough to have you shouting the odds down the phone at them. Graham then phoned me and we fell about laughing at your expense.

Quote from: "danieltwist"In another post he commented how I was insulting to other men in the profession (relating to stigma with men working with children) which is insulting to me...Why did he make the comment, who knows?

Sorry... not me, I don't have a post on that thread. I did post on another topic that I thought you were a spammer although I think if you replace the 'mm' with 'nn' then that is probably accurate too (and yes that is supposed to be rude).

Quote from: "danieltwist"Martin is a liar. I never made an abusive phone call to him. He is a troll

Just cut the crap and do the challenge Clown. It's the open end that you need to blow into and don't tie it before you inflate it

Your post title ' Anyone had an abusive phone call from Daniel Twist?'

Do you know the meaning to the world abuse?

Quote from: "fairby"Again I will explain, your comment there are 2 sides to every story, so I pointed out one will be right and one will be wrong, I did not say who is right or wrong, its you that assumed.

So you were stating the obvious?

Quote from: "Graham Lee"I started the forum with one of the intention's of trying to help people improve thier balloon modelling skills and our artform.
I would like to attempt to help Daniel as well although this may be a challenge too far but here goes, Daniel the challenge for you is to make any five models from the model of the month section, your choice and to post them on the forum. They should look to be of a certain standard of someone that has been modelling for 10 years, I will leave it to the forum members to decide if you have won the challenge and if so I will send you 5 of my DVD's, again any 5 of your choice.

So Daniel are you up for the challenge!

Yes for as long as you remove Martin's comments about me ' making an abusive phone call to him ' which I didn't do. You are welcome to remove my comment about him being abusive to me over the phone if you agree to remove his post.

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Quote from: "danieltwist"

Quote from: "fairby"Not yet,  

Martin has rung me up and told me to drop dead.  There are two sides to every story

I know one is the truth and the other is false.

How do you know the truth? A classic example of a comment being made which makes no sense.

Quote from: "fairby"Not yet,  

Martin has rung me up and told me to drop dead.  There are two sides to every story

Quote from: "Martin"...If not then I feel rather special :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I'm just watching Al Jazeera to see if he has also had a fatwa served on me!

I asked Martin to leave me alone. I did not make a abusive phone call.

Quote from: "Martin"Daniel,

Enough is enough! It was time to 'walk the walk' a long time ago and you have dodged it at every opportunity, but yet you still continue to make these rather fanciful posts suggesting that we can all learn from you (Buster, Jack and Patrick included no doubt :roll: )

In balloons a picture is worth a thousand words.

Please now do as many have asked and make your best model, photograph it and post it for us all to see. You may then gain a little bit of the respect that you keep protesting you deserve.

If you are not prepared to do this then please stop littering this once valuable resource with any more fiction from Planet Daniel.

Thank you,
Martin.

Graham has said that these comments are not rude. I rang  up Martin to ask him to stop making nasty comments and he reports me to Graham for being rude to him, which I was not.

People like Martin take things out of content. In another post he commented how I was insulting to other men in the profession (relating to stigma with men working with children) which is insulting to me. I simply said that some people have issue with men working with children, which is not me being insulting but the people who think that way. Why did he make the comment, who knows?

I have people on here who  do support me and they have said so. At the end of the day this is a forum not a conversation over the phone or in person so of course you don't always get the true feel of how comments are meant to come across. I am sorry but not because its my fault but because I'm sorry for being a human being. I'm not the best of writers if I were then I would be a TV or film writer, something I would love to do. I am not being funny, I'm actually serious about it.

Martin is a liar. I never made an abusive phone call to him. He is a troll

Funny how I get told off for being rude and yet Graham having rung me up tells me to shut up.

I'm taking out life insurance as I believe there are people on this forum out to get me

Quote from: "Graham Lee"Daniel you do make me laugh, many thanks for all the fun posts you have put up onto the forum.

Thank you.

Quote from: "Ballonim"i do not agree with you Daniel. it depends on you are good you market your self. I do a balloon job 5 day a week for a company with about 200 stores in Germany. i quite busy for the company.
You say that you have muss be busy with balloon modelling?
The expirience is not important, it important to do wat you do with love

Have a nice time from Germany

Gabriel

There are many balloon artists who do not twist their balloons on a regular basis so I am right when I some balloon artists who have been balloon modelling for ten years (etc.) have more experience than someone doing it for 20 years (etc.)

Why say you disagree when it's clearly true. Some balloon artists do have more experience then others despite not having been in the business as long.  

This is a topic not to be disagreed it. I know why people are, because they are not reading my posts correctly and are taking things the wrong way.

You believe I think I'm better than you all. I'm better than some, just as many of you are better than me and other members (etc.).

Quote from: "nippy99"It's not the number of years you have been twisting that matters, it's what you do with that time that counts.

When I am not performing I do around 1-2 hours of practice twisting most days. I love it and find it relaxing.

I do enough practice to develop my skills, to charge a decent price and give a professional service.

Saying that, I am not happy with where I am with my balloon skill development and really want to take it to the next step.

Daniel, I am surprised you can physically manage that many hours of twisting each day as my hands would be so painful. I would love to see some of your creations as well. If  experience is measured in balloon hours then you certainly are the balloon master :-)

I agree.

Experience is measured in balloon hours but it doesn't in any way mean that I am there for better than anyone who has worked less hours. I think that may be why people are annoyed by my post. I am not sorry because if people bother to read my post and not take it the wrong way there wouldn't be the problems.

Quote from: "Normski"Daniel  iam probably one of the few that perhaps has felt a little sorry for you in your
short time on balloon chat and i have put it down to your lack of ability to be able to
write good gramatical English but i dont understand a couple of things:-

1) You have stated on more than one occasion that you are leaving for good yet you are still here??
This makes me think that you are attention seeking and need a cuddle which i will happily do if it
makes you feel better about things  

2) You seem to write these posts to try and get a reaction from the great people on the forum
to create reaction,annoyance, bad feeling etc and then you turn it on the other person and if you dont
like there opinions you get upset,why is this??

3) Personally i think its great you have been twisting for ten years, i would love you to share
and help me and others.
I for one have only been twisting full time for 4 years and i will never stop learning.
I think in our industry you will never ever stop learning as the art is always developing and you cannot
specilaise in all styles, no different to musicians.
Also i dont agree that it matters how long you have been twisting balloons wheteher its a year or twenty as
the biggest benefit on time in the industry is more with one`s entertainment skill ,which is in my opinion (especially
on how i work,) the difference to why someone may pick me and not my competitor.

However the combination is important great skills,good entertainment and likability!!!

I think you would really benefit from this forum as thete is a wealth of genius artists on here that
would always help and share and we can all benefit from that.

I`ll never forget Thelma teaching Don Caldwell new techniques at TMJ and he is one of the best
artists and performers out there so we can all keep learning.

I hope you understand where i am coming from  and hope you can chill a little

Regards

Normski

Not agreeing with me is fine for as long there is logic to it. I have had comments which have made it clear they haven't read my posts correctly.

I am not a troll. I do not enjoy seeing people get annoyed by my posts. None  of the posts are offensive.

It has been said on the topic that I am wrong. How can I be wrong? I have got more experience than many balloon artists as many only work a few hours a day.

I know a lot of balloon artists only do hired work. What's there to disagree with?

Don't know what the problem is?